The cat’s out of the bag, the elephant’s in the room and we have questions!

Grab your Bibles, because this conversation is going deep. On this episode of Oh, That’s Deep: Black Women’s Conversations, the ladies weigh in on a pastor’s public announcement about a plural relationship and the debate over using scripture to defend it. They share their perspectives on marriage, spiritual leadership, accountability, and the difference between something being described in the Bible and being endorsed by it. Then, a listener letter brings the conversation closer to home: What happens when the friend praying over your marriage is secretly planning a future with your husband? Nicole and Janine tackle emotional betrayal, blurred boundaries, and manipulation—and disagree on whether counseling or a clean break should come next. Plus, catch up on new babies, holiday plans, event-season exhaustion, and Janine’s lengthy wait to vote. The motivational moment brings it all together with a reminder about discernment: Pay attention to people’s patterns, intentions, and actions—not just how warmly they welcome you. Until we meet again… Pray. Work. Slay. And show off your melanated excellence. Find more shows like this on the Mean Ole Lion app.